Any one claim who reached enlightenment is a liar actually. He takes dump before enlightenment and after

What is the difference between you and them ? Same except they are conman.

India is a Land of Godman(conman), Snakes , Monkeys and POOR!.

It is endless overwhelming noise of HINDU MUMBO JUMBO , you can as well imagine monkeys live there.

Vedic people had no caste or Varna divisions by birth. Rig Veda – 7/64/2 & 8/11/6 call Mitra? and Varun as Kshatriyas in the ‘powerful’ sense as neither they were Kshatriya born nor were there any Kshatriya race, then. Similarly, Agni is also called Vipra or Brahmin in the sense of ‘intelligent’. R.V (112/3) says:? I am a carpenter, my son a doctor& my daughter a wheat grinder. This was possible as there were no caste or work distinction based on birth

Don’t you know how to post a comment? You just justify your views if you are capable enough, no need to criticise others views. Mr. Suchin is 100% correct. You are telling that no one can change one’s caste, then can any one change their religion? If the ans is yes, then why can’t caste? If the ans is no, then why it is like that? Lord Krishna only said that there are only 4 varnas. And also stated that, by birth every one are Shudras only. If “No one can change their cast atleast once” is your argument, how is it possible? How Brahmins, Vyshyas & Kshatriyas came into world? Only Suchin gave nice explination for this, not you. So please keep quite if you don’t know 100%.

You mentioned examples like Mr. Jagajjivan Ram etc. Suchin explained very clearly. Still You were not able to understand. That’s why you used the word ‘converted’. They are not Dvaparayuga people. They are also belongs to Kaliyuga in which majority of the people are like you. So only they were not recognised with Brahmana / Vyshya / Kshatria or any of the upper caste names.

Let me explain you in detail:

Religion is nothing but belief. If you believe that God is one we can understand this betterly. People are very different minded. God took many roopas like Vishnu, Christ, Allah and spread his valuable speech according to the peoples mind. Some liked Christ views and some with Allah where as some were atracted by Vishnu. Like that, who liked and followed Christ called as Christians, Allah – Musalmans & Vishnu, Shiva etc. are Hindus etc. The child born in Hindu family is reading only BagavadGeeta. Muslim is reading Khuran & Christian is reading Bible. Every book is containing very valuable info and ultimately all are ment for to lead our life very pleasently. The meaning & the Goal is same for all the religions. But what’s going on??? Why terrorism is increasing day by day??? Atleast Hindus are better. We are already adjusted with more than one god system so we believe Christ also and Allah also. Means we believe that Christ is there and we give respect to Khuran also. But others are not like that. They believe only “their god”. That’s why this bloody terrorism is spreading like any thing.

So we must understand that who follows Bhagavadgeeta is Hindu, who want to follow Bible is nothing but Christian and who like and follow Buddhism etc.

In the same way child cannot born directly as Brahmin / Kshatriya / Vysya or Shudra. Who are passing their lives by studying Vedas and all were called as Brahmins and who are all doing business were called as Vysyas etc. Actually the first Varna was Shudra. All were shudras means all were doing agriculture. But all types of food grains we can’t cultivate in one land. So from then exchenge of things system was started. So they needed one store like and one person as mediator for this process. He is nothing but Vyshya. The group of vyshyas needed protection for their shops & lifes there Kshtriyas came into picture. Because they ment for protection they must be strong enough to do wars and all. So eating Non-veg is not a sin for them. To guide these Kshatriyas wise people necessity cameup. So Brahmins took this job and prepared 4 vedas which can guide us in 4 different fields.

So by birth we can’t fix the child caste. If he becomes as businessman he should be called as Vyshya and if he becomes politician he should be called as Kshatriya. Varna is nothing but ancient job like modern engineer, doctor etc. If Brahmins are the only people who have the right to read vedas then why are they becoming politicians, business mans etc.? Nothing is dedicated to anybody. ( According to usual society I am a pure Brahmin even then i don’t like some brahmins behaviours that’s y iam posting this comment) Please try to change ourselves or atleast try to understand about the caste meaning and don’t be proudish.

Today’s world scenario is volatile and explosive then ever with nuclear equipped neighbours ready, up in arms against each other, with countires going on wars and all sorts of natural calamities, food crises, fuel crises and soon to come water crises

If there are some revolutionaries amongsts us and they are writing or blogging something, it is good. Even if you are trying to inspire people and create revolutionaries by blogging something like this, its ok. But if we are blogging something to record our personal assumptions or readings/ beliefs and because there is ample space available on the internet where we want and giving other people a chance to vent out more anger and hate, then it is of no use because it will not change anything but just create more hate in the world.

If you are trying to be one of the above 2 revolutionaries (you have quoted) or even trying to inspire and create men like the above souls then it is OK, but if not then it is just creating another space for people to fight apart from war fields. Like some people have done above here.

Or, maybe people are misinterpreting your “noble cause”.

Anyways, thanks and have a nice day!

Mr. Jack Stephens, please do not blog sensitive topics

If sensitive topics were never brought up then Ambedkar would have never gotten victories for dalits in the constitution, Martin Luther King, Jr. wouldn’t have gotten victories within the Civil Rights Act, and women would have never been able to get the federal right to vote in the United States.

Mr. Jack Stephens, please do not blog sensitive topics like this where people just get a platform on the platter to vent all their anger and while the situation is not as bad when people are busy in day-to-day life, by reading views, claims and counter-claims like here, the situation gets more explosive and worsens.
So, though you may have done a very good and near perfect comparative analysis, please do not select topics like this in future and fuel already deteriorating world situation.

Thanks!

In the meantime, upon a brisk browsing, I found the following casteistic Indians comment very distrubing and extremely derogatory and venmous to any good readers. Kayastha like Indians are the ultimate source of hatred, voilence, varna culture and degrading India to the least HUMANE nation on this planet, I hope you will consider for the benefit of other readers to remove the following comment and warn whoever Kayastha to behave as how other commenters behaved.

Thanks,
Saint
Upliftthem

Kayastha
Apr 15th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Ambedkar represents the ‘mouth that bit the hand which fed him’.He was so ungrateful that he did not even acknowledge the man who gave him his Brahmin surname to gain admission in High School or the Maharaja of Baroda who financed his studies from High School till his Doctorate.The so-called Dalits are ‘Namak Haraaam’- to use an Islamic term which means they are most ungrateful to the people who helped them selflessly with a pure heart.Such people can never gain in the world.Bloody ungrateful bastards.