Magesh finds it disturbing that the American Academy of Paediatrics has recommended cholesterol drugs for dealing with obesity in children:
Linked by kuffir. Join Blogbharti facebook group.Childhood obesity is rising at alarming levels in India and strong efforts needs be done to address this issue without causing long term health hazards to the children. Schools should consider having something like the health card (aligned to the progress report card) and can offer reward points for adopting to healthy lifestyle choices.
‘Adult’ medicine is wrong qualification. There are hundreds of Familial cholesterol diseases ( hypercholesterolemias) affecting kids.
sunil,
if you don’t get it, don’t try to explain it.
fjkshaaaaaaaaw!!
What was that? Discuss.
There was an article and a response blog, which you linked to adding the rider- ahem - ‘adult’ medicine, which has been neither mentioned in the original article nor the blog.
My comment was to point out that your terminology is wrong. Because, there isnt any such thing known adult medicine.
Children were prescribed these medications (statins) from ten and above earlier, which has been recommnded to be dropped down to eight and above.
The blog by Magesh sounds like it could very well had been by his aunt in 1980s. But thats not new to fret about.
The amusing part is you gracing it with a title of adult medicine when kids as old as 10 and in many parts of the world even lesser are/were having the same medication prescribed for ages now.
Just that we understand better, this comment, my friend is what would fall into the clear definition of what in many circles is known as the ‘explanation’.
perhaps,
Sunil
ah..another explanation. to explain an earlier non-explanation. you’ve a hardworking sense of amusement, my friend.
Online dictionaries and hard copies of cambridge and oxford likes are available for explaining terms and terminologies with illustrations(that could spare him from this detailed “explanation”) from his aunt days
Kuffir,
If there is anything wrong or ignorant in my comment, I would be glad to learn. But you are like mumbling to yourself. I reckon, you are too old for learning anything you dont know and too set in your ways to accept a mistake. No one can help you. Sorry.
Magesh, I dont know if that is me you mean in your comment. But in any case my aunt says hi to you. Now piss off and write and about something you dont know.
Puntingly yours
Sunil
Well..Sunil needs to grow up..anyways..would be silly to respond to his comment..am signing off..
Sweet. Denial (Kuffir) and avoidance(Magesh) are the two commonest human responses.
Magesh, my boy, how about helping me grow up?
Why dont you read the guidelines again at the AAP site and explain to this silly boy, what is so disturbing in an evidence based recommendation ( in fact modification of a recommendation) by a professional body apart from your own communist imagination?
The result is published. Why dont you challenge the results by appraising the research methods and epidemiological data? Instead all you write is
a. there is conspiracy between pharma n the pediatric industry.
b. that children should exercise more and eat leafy salads.
both the statements are your own ( though they could be from a wodehousian aunt) and make no valid sense. in fact they sound like they have been taken from a second rate 1980 textbook of social science.
Further, you go on making absolutely stupid statements like Indian kids are getting fat ( again your own imagination- this in a nation which has one of the highest rates of Protein Energy Malnutrition in the world) and complete it all by applying an american guideline to an irrelevant sample of indian population.
even accepting your foolishness as your being- exercise and staying fit is primary prevention while statins are secondary. They are exclusive, though related, but are not substitutes to each other. Just like how driving within speed limits isnt a substitute for wearing seat belts.
If there is anything I have missed out inside your unoriginal brain, gimme a shout, else go and join the Communist Party of India which would complete your sorry life.
It’s such fun to engage with Indian bloggers,
Sunil
sunil,
your last explanation should actually have been an apology. that’s the *commonest human response* one normally expects from anyone who seeks to engage with anyone, especially with people one hardly knows. especially when one has called them senile and stupid and ignorant earlier. and asked them to piss off.
that’s how the *commonest human* engagements start, and are sustained: by being civil. let me illustrate for you how a * common human*, civil conversation would run like:
s: k, ‘adult’ is *perhaps not the right* qualification for this kind of medicine because it is used in ‘many parts of the world’ for children.
k: s, maybe you’re right. thanks for the comment..but it isn’t recommended for children in other parts of the world..
s: but ‘adult’ still isn’t the right qualification for a medicine that has been used for children for ages.
k: s, i’m not a journalist reporting on an event and trying to be narrowly precise here. and i’m still not convinced ‘adult’ is wide off the mark because i’ve not met any doctor who could be so definitively confident about many health issues. but thanks for pointing out certain facts.
now, that kind of conversation would’ve ensured that both bloggers signed off without nursing this nagging feeling that they’d indulged in fatuous games like ‘who-can-piss-further’.
but that unfortunately has never been the kind of conversation you seem to be interested in. and your interest in other people’s responses doesn’t seem to include reading them..so, what’s the point, anyway?..if i said ’state’ as in ‘nation-state’ it would be picked up as goa ’state’ or ’state’ of dementia. you illiteracy is always another person’s ignorance.
i don’t think you’d still get it. but get this: the next time your name appears here, i want it to be accompanied by a *common human* response: an apology and nothing else. and not just for my sake. oh, i might still be willing to indulge you because i like my amusement too. but magesh happens to be a rare individual, among thousands of indian bloggers (yes, i’ve read more than a thousand, which i think is a fair sample) who writes on critical health issues consistently. and he has never claimed any expertise on any of those issues- only an intense curiosity to learn about them, which i think is probably the result of a personal experience with disease at home. how many indian bloggers have you read who care to spend their time running health support blogs?
an apology, if you get it. or you’re welcome to follow the trail of the *common human* liquid waste you seem to be so fascinated with. oh you might still spew your comments here, excrete your judgments- we don’t even have a comments policy( our belief in free speech seems to be an invitation to foul speech to you), if you noticed, so you’re welcome to do it. if you still don’t get it.
Next natural response is anger, Kuffir, which clouds human thought process. ( So said world famous blogger krishna to arjuna, who ahd given up blogging) .
I said this :
Adult’ medicine is wrong qualification. There are hundreds of Familial cholesterol diseases ( hypercholesterolemias) affecting kids.
You ask me to say this:
s: k, ‘adult’ is *perhaps not the right* qualification for this kind of medicine because it is used in ‘many parts of the world’ for children.
perhaps not the right is generally known as wrong.
and in response I get this from you:
sunil,
if you don’t get it, don’t try to explain it.
And you sit before your keyboard and beg for civility?
You must be kidding me. Rest followed.
Parallels:
1. Magesh is an adult. I dont have to answer you for him. That he has been writing a treatise of health blogs is irrelevant to me. What he has written in this post is absolute malarkey. He must be thankful for leaving him alone, his super rarity and on the verge of extinction considering. He wasnt and got what he deserved.
2. When I wrote my first comment, it was not to educate you( as I have said before, I think you are beyond that), It was to highlight to anyone reading, the gross casualness with which you have coloured teha rticle and the blogpost with your own ignorance.( You dont even have the courtesy, forget civility to acknowledge it) instead you provoke unnecessarily.
How would have been this for a response:
Seems like Ive gotten it wrong. But I wasnt intending to be accurate/specific; but i see how it has altered the meaning.
Instead you mumble soemthing and when told off proper, you start whining about wanting civility and ice cream.
Civility has to be earnt mate. I expect to read blogs and exchange thoughts. I have not made a promise that I would be nice to every other idiot online. I dont expect others to be nice as a prerequisite, as long as they know and make sense of what they are talking and writing about. If you want to eb nice to eevryone, why dont you buy everyone a coke? ( Ethan Hawke from Reality Bites)
I told you it’s fun.
Warning! Warning!
Denial, anger, … Sunil is about to go into depression very soon! God I wish to be around when acceptance finally sets in! :P
I pity you sudipta for being blessed with such low functioning drain for a brain. You cant help it I know, like shakespeare said , some men have it thrusted onto them. It’s unfair.
Awww sweetie, thank you so much for your pity. Come on, I know you will reply to this. Kuffir gets such huge replies and I get just 2.5 lines? Its sooo unfair. Bark once more, please!
Closing comments on this post as the discussion has veered off the topic of the post. If you want to discuss civility, please do so on your personal blogs.