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		<title>By: Sudeep</title>
		<link>http://www.blogbharti.com/madhat/india/yact/comment-page-1/#comment-2960</link>
		<dc:creator>Sudeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 20:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerosene may burn at a temp. that cant burn steel, but the temperature is high enough for steel to loose a lot of its structural strength. Heres some real civil eng. information about large fires in large buildings.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/911myths/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerosene may burn at a temp. that cant burn steel, but the temperature is high enough for steel to loose a lot of its structural strength. Heres some real civil eng. information about large fires in large buildings.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/911myths/" rel="nofollow">http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/911myths/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charles Frith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Frith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 11:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry not gasoline. It&#039;s Kerosene. The stuff that burns at temperatures well below that at which steel melts :)

I urge you all to take a look at Loose Change. It&#039;s very provocative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry not gasoline. It&#8217;s Kerosene. The stuff that burns at temperatures well below that at which steel melts :)</p>
<p>I urge you all to take a look at Loose Change. It&#8217;s very provocative.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Frith</title>
		<link>http://www.blogbharti.com/madhat/india/yact/comment-page-1/#comment-2946</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Frith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 11:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loose change II makes a perfectly credible assertion. The twin towers  had a plane fly into each one, gasoline exploded and yet they both fell in exactly the same manner as Tower 7 which was &#039;demolished&#039; later in the evening.

See for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6aPb-fy7XY

Most people catch themselves post rationalizing this conflict of evidence at this point. And who could blame them?


As for conspiracy theories. The assertion that Bin Laden, a diabetic man in a cave, in Afghanistan, is responsible for bringing the mighty United States to it&#039;s knees, is to my mind fanciful and smells of, well conspiracy. Unless of course he did it on his own. A mad idea just as unhinged as those who would suggest the President of the United States could do it on his own.

As a London cab driver said to me out in the Far East earlier this year, while referring to the collapse of the towers in New York on 911. 

&quot;It was a bit neat wasn&#039;t it&quot;.

One always feels sympathetic to those who place all their trust in government. Europeans with the carnage of two world wars behind us are a lot more sceptical. A good post and one that deserves discussion in my book. But conspiracy theories should be left in caves with mystics of Islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loose change II makes a perfectly credible assertion. The twin towers  had a plane fly into each one, gasoline exploded and yet they both fell in exactly the same manner as Tower 7 which was &#8216;demolished&#8217; later in the evening.</p>
<p>See for yourself.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6aPb-fy7XY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6aPb-fy7XY</a></p>
<p>Most people catch themselves post rationalizing this conflict of evidence at this point. And who could blame them?</p>
<p>As for conspiracy theories. The assertion that Bin Laden, a diabetic man in a cave, in Afghanistan, is responsible for bringing the mighty United States to it&#8217;s knees, is to my mind fanciful and smells of, well conspiracy. Unless of course he did it on his own. A mad idea just as unhinged as those who would suggest the President of the United States could do it on his own.</p>
<p>As a London cab driver said to me out in the Far East earlier this year, while referring to the collapse of the towers in New York on 911. </p>
<p>&#8220;It was a bit neat wasn&#8217;t it&#8221;.</p>
<p>One always feels sympathetic to those who place all their trust in government. Europeans with the carnage of two world wars behind us are a lot more sceptical. A good post and one that deserves discussion in my book. But conspiracy theories should be left in caves with mystics of Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: madhat</title>
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		<dc:creator>madhat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 10:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shivam,

I am sorry. It sounds like a conspiracy theory to me and if I had thought it was stupid, I would not have linked to it.
One of the better argued conspiracy theories is this - 

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The video makes a lot of interesting points that are worth thinking about but it does not mean I will not call it a conspiracy theory. It is one and a good one too.

Unlike this video, which makes its case with a lot of photographic and factual evidence, Shuddhabrata asserts that such coordination cannot be possible without a central force and goes on from there to cast doubts on the IB&#039;s role in the whole thing. But as kuffir points out, the police force of different states do cooperate informally. If the top cops of one state ask for assistance to capture a &#039;terrorist&#039;, would the police of the other states assist or desist? Just that blows irreparable holes into his theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shivam,</p>
<p>I am sorry. It sounds like a conspiracy theory to me and if I had thought it was stupid, I would not have linked to it.<br />
One of the better argued conspiracy theories is this &#8211; </p>
<p><embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=7866929448192753501&#038;hl=en" flashvars=""> </embed></p>
<p>The video makes a lot of interesting points that are worth thinking about but it does not mean I will not call it a conspiracy theory. It is one and a good one too.</p>
<p>Unlike this video, which makes its case with a lot of photographic and factual evidence, Shuddhabrata asserts that such coordination cannot be possible without a central force and goes on from there to cast doubts on the IB&#8217;s role in the whole thing. But as kuffir points out, the police force of different states do cooperate informally. If the top cops of one state ask for assistance to capture a &#8216;terrorist&#8217;, would the police of the other states assist or desist? Just that blows irreparable holes into his theory.</p>
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		<title>By: kuffir</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 09:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shivam,

the belief that &#039;this kind of multi-state co ordination of police forces can only be done by Central bodies&#039; is a questionable notion-

read this:(&#039;http://www.pucl.org/reports/AndhraPradesh/enc-ap-letter.htm)

On the night of December 1st 1999 three members of the Central Committee of the CPI (ML) Peoples War-Nalla Adi Reddy (Shyam, 44), Arramreddy Santosh Reddy (Mahesh, 40) and Seelam Naresh (Murali, 39) were killed in cold blood by the Andhra Pradesh special police shortly after they were arrested from Bangalore in a covert operation. H. J. Dora, the DGP of Andhra Pradesh announced on the next day that they were among the four persons killed in a fierce gun battle between the guerillas of the CPI (ML)(PW) and the police in the Koyyur forest area of Karimnagar district. Circumstantial evidence show that the three leaders were caught when they were in an unconscious state on the basis of information given by one Govinda Reddy, who was looking after their shelter at Sarakkigate in Banashankari area in Bangalore at around 12.30 PM. on the previous day.....&#039;

they were grabbed in bangalore, with knowledge of the karnataka police, but were passed of as having been killed in an encounter a thousand kilometres away in karimnagar, andhra pradesh!

the frightening thing is police across states co-operate with each other on a routine, but informal basis, everyday on these kind of issues... and nobody but the police brass needs to know this (not even the minister). these issues come out in the open only when someone with the resources and the knowledge starts asking questions.

the frightening thing is, there is/was no conspiracy - only a normal everyday infraction. and apurva, i guess, is only trying to digest that through &#039;normalizing&#039; it. yes, you&#039;re mostly right too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shivam,</p>
<p>the belief that &#8216;this kind of multi-state co ordination of police forces can only be done by Central bodies&#8217; is a questionable notion-</p>
<p>read this:(&#8216;http://www.pucl.org/reports/AndhraPradesh/enc-ap-letter.htm)</p>
<p>On the night of December 1st 1999 three members of the Central Committee of the CPI (ML) Peoples War-Nalla Adi Reddy (Shyam, 44), Arramreddy Santosh Reddy (Mahesh, 40) and Seelam Naresh (Murali, 39) were killed in cold blood by the Andhra Pradesh special police shortly after they were arrested from Bangalore in a covert operation. H. J. Dora, the DGP of Andhra Pradesh announced on the next day that they were among the four persons killed in a fierce gun battle between the guerillas of the CPI (ML)(PW) and the police in the Koyyur forest area of Karimnagar district. Circumstantial evidence show that the three leaders were caught when they were in an unconscious state on the basis of information given by one Govinda Reddy, who was looking after their shelter at Sarakkigate in Banashankari area in Bangalore at around 12.30 PM. on the previous day&#8230;..&#8217;</p>
<p>they were grabbed in bangalore, with knowledge of the karnataka police, but were passed of as having been killed in an encounter a thousand kilometres away in karimnagar, andhra pradesh!</p>
<p>the frightening thing is police across states co-operate with each other on a routine, but informal basis, everyday on these kind of issues&#8230; and nobody but the police brass needs to know this (not even the minister). these issues come out in the open only when someone with the resources and the knowledge starts asking questions.</p>
<p>the frightening thing is, there is/was no conspiracy &#8211; only a normal everyday infraction. and apurva, i guess, is only trying to digest that through &#8216;normalizing&#8217; it. yes, you&#8217;re mostly right too.</p>
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		<title>By: shivam</title>
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		<dc:creator>shivam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 08:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish you had not trivialised it as conspiracy theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish you had not trivialised it as conspiracy theory.</p>
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