A fanatic, they say, is someone who does what he thinks God would have done, if He had the details of the case. In this case, only if everyone knew how the civilization and culture accumulated over 5,000 years was being destroyed through “obscene dancing” in pubs.
Vishita titles her post “Shame on me and shame on you”:
KARNATAKAS SHAME read the glaring headline and then right before my eyes I saw images of two young girls being chased out of a pub by a dozen odd men. The girl’s crime, so to speak, was their presence in local Mangalore pub. The shame is not Karnataka’s alone, its mine, its yours to share too.
As a nation we decide to fight extremists outside the country, yet oddly enough, we treat extremists within our country with a sustained understanding which is often reserved only for nurturing young talent. It’s a shame indeed.
Vinu muses if Hemanth Karkare and Sandeep Unnikrishnan laid down their lives to protect people like these:
I simply dont get the motive of these people. Do they like wake up one day and realize that they owe their share to the society however unwanted it is. Or they hurt their head and their brains desecend down to their butts where they start thinking upside down. Or is a pathology of some other kind. Or they have been really hoodwinked to think they are supermen of some kind, knighted to protect poor us. Hitting women…some kind of supermen these sure are. Had it not for these brave people so benevolent with their violent hearts, working selflessly to protect me from being corrupted I could have never visualised our country achieving the great heights Taliban has.
Like his blog’s title says, “Life is a free circus”. Over at ditdot, the emotion is to hit back:
And if they do attack the pub that you are in let them have it – I know there is anger within all of you – use it right, use it in self defence. Break a glass bottle on their heads, pick up a chair and smash it into their spines! That is exactly what I will do if I come across them! Impractical as it may sound this is what I will do! I will not let this ruffians scare me! We will show them exactly how “traditional” we can get when they push us to such limits.
Sanram, on the other hand, believes (and not sarcastically) that every state should have one such Sena. Otherwise, “There wont be any Indian Culture if the same condition prevails”:
When i first saw the Mangalore incident on TV i felt embarassed…Yes these girls deserve it[emphasis mine]…but i got angry over the media which claimed it as Talibanisation.
Do the media channels know what is Talibanisation?
Ram Sena didnot attcked the people who went for work! they didnot attacked people who refused to wear masks over their faces.
Ambika Soni, Times Now Channel and NDTV may claim these acts to be Talibanisation!!! But remember FTV is censored in India, REN TV is banned in India, Rainbow TV is against Indian Culture….If Ambika Soni accepts this then what Ram Sena is valid in their acts…
To end, I’ll quote this doha of Kabir I found at exotic’s blog:
“Bura Jo Dekhan main chala, bura na milya koi
Jo Man Dekha Aapno, mujhse bura na koi.”
More gems from Sanram’s post..
“Ofcourse it may be for popularity or may be a political stunt…but India needs them…they didnt molested them…
You cant preach and convert anybody in other nations and slowly we will loose our identity culturally if party like Sri Ram sena doesnt exist.
Ideally speaking every state needs party like Sri Ram Sena but the extent to which they acted is bit heavy.”
No comments as i am shocked by the attitude of educted people..If this is what is expected out of being called civilized,no wonder those illiterate hooglians acted that way.MAybe we should expect more from the other class.
The Sanram link does not seem to be working. Did he change his mind and remove the post?
Well hope so, if educated people start thinking like this, who knows what’s going to happen to us all!
Yea sure, we need groups like the one in Mangalore..And we need people to tell us what to do, what to wear, where to go, where not to go, what to say,who to talk to, who not to talk to, what to write, what not to write. Why do I need my brains? If I am just going to have to follow what others dictate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Sheba, yes it appears so. I don’t wish to get a post a link to the Google cache. You can refer to (some of) the other gems in Nimmy’s comment above.
Sanram …..its people liek you that keep this country still in its infancy.
your narrow minded backward thinking upbringing must have turned you into this imbecile who thinks hitting women in public is the right thing to do.
a disease like ram sene and other like shiv sena are just a bunch of impotent (not using expletives) `A’ movie flockers; this needs to be eradicated from Indian society in the first place.
it actually scares me to think how the women in their lives (be it their mothers, sisters, wives) put up with this kind of monstrosity.
on the other hand it could be that , this act and acts llike these stem from a depressed and socially inactive upbringing, maybe they were beaten by their mothers and abused adn rejected by other women.
i could go on, but ht ebottom line is, ‘as a collective mind of free thinkers we should put away (lock up) individuals and group slike ram sene in order to live in a free adn democratic INDIA.
Hey…People… do you think that “Pink Chaddhi” is highy cultured, operated out of your thinking of the great brains…wow!!! what a brainy idea?:) hahaha!!!
Law and Judges are there to punish if they feel that is wrong.
Private Things are publicized there with just keeping a govt license.
I witnessed a mother telling her teenage girl in a mall stating not to look into the “Axe Calender”???? and how many scientists, doctors and performing artists were there injured in the mall? remember they did’t attacked any cinema theatre or any bars or any hotel…
are you doing any Business to earn extra income????
The questionif for you “The brainy Sheba”.
I guess the pub culture in itself does not match with the rich cultural and traditional heritage of India. We should embrace modernism in a way that it does not destroy our own cultural values…
cant belive the Sanram post.. I dont care what anyone says, you dont raise your hand on a woman. as for Mangalore’s pub culture its been there for decades with no problem.. those who feel so strongly about preserving Indian culture like this would do well to give up their flats , jobs and vehicles and ride on bullocks to the stone masons.. wasnt our culture supposed to be tolerance..
Talibanisation is the right word.. no doubt about it. I’d written about it when it occured…
http://godyears.blogspot.com/2009/01/live-free-or-die-hard.html